: Buyers of Garmin SatNavs will soon be able to buy a lifetime, quad-annual map updates of a new Navteq map, all for 119 Euro.

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Lifetime map updates for Garmin

October 8 2008, 18:08

Buyers of Garmin SatNavs will soon be able to buy a lifetime, quad-annual map updates of a new Navteq map, all for 119 Euro.

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By yourNAV editors
Lifetime map updates for GarminAfter Navigon’s Freshmaps, TomTom’s Map Update Service and Mio’s Free Map update offer, it’s now Garmin’s turn to come up with plans for keeping their navigational maps up-to-date. Even though they still won’t acknowledge it officially, we know they will soon announce that users can buy a ‘lifetime map update subscription’ with their new Garmin device.

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The Garmin offer will cost the user a one time fee of ¤ 119.- . For that price, the user will receive four new Navteq map updates per year, for as long as the user owns the device.

When Garmin will announce these plans officially is still unclear though. We do know that on the 15th of October, their annual map update will become available. We can only guess if the new update options will also be offered from that date.

nüMaps
Last month Garmin did officially announce their so-called nüMaps warranty. This guarantees new nüvi and zümo buyers that if a new map becomes available within 60 days after the first use of their
device, this new map will be offered for free to these users.

What they exactly mean by ‘first use’ has been determined very specifically: this is the moment when there is a GPS fix and the system has been used for 30 seconds at a moving speed of at least 20 kph.

This leave little room for discussion at least…


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Rob Ot
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Posted on: October 8, 2008 18:08 h
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Lifetime map updates for Garmin

Buyers of Garmin SatNavs will soon be able to buy a lifetime, quad-annual map updates of a new Navteq map, all for 119 Euro.


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Holdfast
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Posted on: October 8, 2008 19:13 h
Holdfast That's one kick in the nether regions to TomTom. I wonder how they will counter that.
Wishlist
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Posted on: October 8, 2008 19:13 h
Wishlist I think I will buy a Garmin next time! Why can't the cash generating TT do this?
mrsmith
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Posted on: October 8, 2008 19:25 h
Yet again it takes other companies to start the ball rolling! Garmin may have a really good offer but they are so behind the times with everything! I find Teleatlas mapping to be more accurate in the UK but I suppose in the bigger scheme of things both will have negatives and positives! When will Garmin ever bring out a beneficial feature to customers before anyone else?! I don't think they ever will because they can't seem to think of anything before TomTom et all.........
you2
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Posted on: October 8, 2008 21:06 h
Looks like you forgot to give the source so here it is http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/news.asp?id=655 and related topic http://www.gpspassion.com/FORUMSEN/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=118141 where they have given more details following their meeting with Garmin at the Mondial 2008 Car Show in Paris.
Andy_P
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Posted on: October 8, 2008 21:21 h
Andy_P
QUOTE (you2 @ Oct 8 2008, 20:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looks like you forgot to give the source...


Excuse me, but who says that's "the source"?
News like this is usually gleaned from manufacturers' briefings with several interested parties followed up by a press release from the company.
Perception
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Posted on: October 8, 2008 23:10 h
QUOTE (Wishlist @ Oct 8 2008, 19:13) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I will buy a Garmin next time! Why can't the cash generating TT do this?

At TomTom's, you can get new maps each quarter for ¤ 9.95. This means that, for Garmin's ¤ 119,-, I can shop at TomTom's for about 12 quarters, which is three years. Ok, so that's not lifetime, but for me it sure is the 'lifetime' I will be using a SatNav before I buy a new one...
you2
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Posted on: October 8, 2008 23:19 h
@ Andy_P - well GPSPAssion is the only known source for now, if they have another one they should state it, obviously they didn't make up the info and if they read it over there they should just say so as the netiquette suggests...Not that it matters to me, I saw the info on gpstracklog http://gpstracklog.typepad.com/gps_tracklo...n-lifetime.html

In any case the second link I gave provides additional informational on how that program works, for instance not being able to have both USA and European maps, etc...see http://www.gpspassion.com/FORUMSEN/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=118141
Bart
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Posted on: October 8, 2008 23:25 h
Bart We also have our sources from within Garmin. Because GPSPassion was the first to report this, it doesn't mean they are our source. But if it makes you happy, I'm more than willing to acknowledge they had the scoop on this subject.
Wishlist
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Posted on: October 9, 2008 00:30 h
Wishlist
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At TomTom's, you can get new maps each quarter for ¤ 9.95. This means that, for Garmin's ¤ 119,-, I can shop at TomTom's for about 12 quarters, which is three years. Ok, so that's not lifetime, but for me it sure is the 'lifetime' I will be using a SatNav before I buy a new one...
That’s your choice, My classic still runs and I have had that since 2003/4. Add a free for ever map to that and I see no reason to keep up with the joneses. It works and gets me there. I do not need all the add on crap that TT insist we have to buy. Bahhhhhhhh and other sheep like noises.
you2
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Posted on: October 9, 2008 03:46 h
@bart - like I said I don't care I'm just a bystander who reads all the GPS sites and forums (I work in the GPS industry), it just makes you look bad not giving your sources, it's a small world, if it was "Garmin Internal" than you should have said it, period.

Oh and I hadn't noticed : "What they exactly mean by ‘first use’ has been determined very specifically: this is the moment when there is a GPS fix and the system has been used for 30 seconds at a moving speed of at least 20 kph." straight out of GPSPassion...

Anyway now you know some people are keeping an eye open I'm sure you'll give credit where credit is due the next time ;-)
Jolly Roger
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Posted on: October 9, 2008 14:03 h
Jolly Roger I'm sure those words are exactly the same as used on GPS passion, but as the editor of that news item I can assure you that the original was slightly different which would not be the case if it was a copy and paste job.
you2
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Posted on: October 9, 2008 15:05 h
Sorry you've lost me here, editor of which news item, on GPSPassion or here ? To get to the bottom of this I went back to GPSPassion http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/news.asp?id=655 and found :

""First use" being determined by the GPS module getting a fix and the system being used for thirty seconds at a speed of at least 20 kph"

It's pretty obvious that whoever wrote the news item here first read this one http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/news.asp?id=655 and then rewrote it conveniently forgetting to give the source as they did on gpstracklog. Again I don't care but I just thought I'd point out that it looks bad and that I'll probably be removing your RSS from my feed, especially if you insist on denying it on top of it !
Andy_P
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Posted on: October 10, 2008 00:58 h
Andy_P The EDIT that Jolly Roger is referring to is of the News Report on THIS site. It was a 'clean-up' of text written/translated by someone else to whom English is a (very good) second language. We regularly do this, hopefully to give the final text a better flow in everyday English.

I too have seen the original text and it is totally different to the text you keep referring to. The only similar line I can see is the last one referring to first use, and how many other ways of saying that ARE there? It sounds like a direct quote from Garmin to me, so it's bound to be similar!
I still completely fail to see why you believe the YourNav post is written from reference to the GPSPassion post rather than them BOTH being written from a press conference or press release from Garmin. They are simply talking about the same thing!

Anyway, if (as you say) you don't care, why do you keep going on about it? Are you possibly the author of the GPSPassion piece and feel you've been plagiarised?

Hell... Feel free to remove us from your Newsfeed, we've got better things to discuss....
Wishlist
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Posted on: October 10, 2008 09:55 h
Wishlist
QUOTE (Andy_P @ Oct 9 2008, 23:58) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hell... Feel free to remove us from your Newsfeed, we've got better things to discuss....
HA! Andy, the flame on your Avatar does not seem to be appropriately large enough! tease.gif
Andy_P
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Posted on: October 10, 2008 18:18 h
Andy_P You just have to wait 'til the fuse burns down!
you2
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Posted on: October 11, 2008 23:28 h
QUOTE (Andy_P @ Oct 10 2008, 00:58) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The EDIT that Jolly Roger is referring to is of the News Report on THIS site. It was a 'clean-up' of text written/translated by someone else to whom English is a (very good) second language. We regularly do this, hopefully to give the final text a better flow in everyday English.
Thanks for clarifying, so who wrote that piece ? Maybe he could speak for himself and clarify his source, this really doesn't need to be so complicated.

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I still completely fail to see why you believe the YourNav post is written from reference to the GPSPassion post rather than them BOTH being written from a press conference or press release from Garmin. They are simply talking about the same thing!

Please pay attention #1 - there hasn't been any press conference or press release

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Anyway, if (as you say) you don't care, why do you keep going on about it? Are you possibly the author of the GPSPassion piece and feel you've been plagiarised?

Please pay attention #2 - No, I'm a bystander working in the GPS industry, can't say more sorry. Anyway it's a moot point.

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Hell... Feel free to remove us from your Newsfeed, we've got better things to discuss....
Done, good luck.
Bart
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Posted on: October 12, 2008 21:03 h
Bart
QUOTE (you2 @ Oct 11 2008, 23:28) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Andy_P @ Oct 10 2008, 00:58) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The EDIT that Jolly Roger is referring to is of the News Report on THIS site. It was a 'clean-up' of text written/translated by someone else to whom English is a (very good) second language. We regularly do this, hopefully to give the final text a better flow in everyday English.
Thanks for clarifying, so who wrote that piece ? Maybe he could speak for himself and clarify his source, this really doesn't need to be so complicated.

Andy was referring to me. I wrote the original text, based on a text written on our Dutch affiliate site jouwNAV.nl. The author of that text has his info straight from Garmin, as I imagine GPSPassion has also. I see no reason why I should have mentioned that it was Garmin Internal, GPSPassion also neglected to do this. As a matter of fact, they even refer to themselves as the source?

This is the last comment I'll give about this 'issue'. All the explication that needs to be given has already been given. It's clear that you don't believe us, which is your good right and fine by me. I know otherwise, but you are of course entitled to your own opinion, even if it is incorrect.
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